Was the processor the same speed and what would the extra RAM and SSD cost to put in just for better comparison? Just curious. I agree that if you buy new laptops, it's better to just add extra RAM and such than pay for the upgrades since that's what they markup the most. This listing is certified refurbished by eBay and while I don't know what that means itself in terms of quality, it comes with a 2-year warranty and 30-day return policy.
I've had good experiences buying used although it's usually a desktop. In fact, I haven't bought a new computer since 2004. The new one before that was in 1996. I usually get a few years out of a used computer that I bought for $100-150, sometimes under $100. I don't need the latest and greatest. Mine is usually a bit faster than my wife's so when I get a better one, I let her have mine. Everybody's happy. When everyone started moving to SSDs, I bought my wife one (I already had one) and it was like having a new computer for her. And we both had video cards added over the years, me for gaming, her for Second Life.
I'll know I'm rich when I can buy a computer that is spanking new.

Closest I got in the last few years was buying a lightly-used Toshiba ultra-light from Fox. I'm using it right now. Buying a new computer is an extravagance unless you're playing the latest games or doing video editing or such.
I had a Lenovo ThinkPad, too. Loved it. They're great. I haven't tried shooting one yet, though. I think getting a gun isn't worth all the trouble.
