How are you sending out emails?

William · February 04, 2021, 11:52:04 PM

While back, pop.mail.yahoo.ca was rejecting my login. But, I generated "app password" on Yahoo site and got Fetchmail working again. Now, smtp.mail.yahoo.ca, which handles my outgoing emails, is rejecting my connection. So, I can download emails on command line but can't send out on command line. So, I'm half-dead, right now.

This brings up a question... How do you guys send out emails?

I tried Thunderbird, and it works both ways. But, it's not much different from web!

ssfc72 · February 05, 2021, 01:45:01 AM

Hello William. I use the Thunderbird email client on my Mint 19 notebook computer and I have 3 different yahoo.com/yahoo.ca email accounts.

William · February 05, 2021, 02:18:04 AM

And, how is it different from using Yahoo's website? I mean, in terms of workflow.

The only advantage I see is automatically logging into 3 different accounts. With websites, you have to log in semi-manually (user and password are filled in by Firefox), then click "Mail". So, 2 extra mouse clicks.

fox · February 05, 2021, 07:09:28 AM

I have no idea how Yahoo mail works since I don't use it. I have an Office 365 account from work. I use Thunderbird from Ubuntu to send out and receive email. I also have a gmail home account and I send and receive mail from Firefox on that one. On my Mac side, I use either Apple mail or Outlook to send and receive mail.

Jason · February 05, 2021, 01:24:24 PM

What is it that you're looking for, in particular, William? What I mean is how do you want your email workflow to work? Are you looking for the least clicks possible?

In regards to me, I use Gmail (webmail interface) and Tutanota (local client) for my own domain address.

Btw, kudos to you for using email from the command-line. It's not something I'd do but it's an interesting choice. Why do you prefer it on the command-line? Just wondering if there is an advantage other than it being cool which, for us geeks, might be enough.

ssfc72 · February 05, 2021, 09:12:36 PM

Well I have many email address, Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo etc, so with Thunderbird email client, it is 1 click to boot up Thunderbird to gather up all my email messages. :-)

Quote from: William on February 05, 2021, 02:18:04 AM
And, how is it different from using Yahoo's website? I mean, in terms of workflow.

The only advantage I see is automatically logging into 3 different accounts. With websites, you have to log in semi-manually (user and password are filled in by Firefox), then click "Mail". So, 2 extra mouse clicks.

William · February 06, 2021, 12:28:46 AM

Quote from: ssfc72 on February 05, 2021, 09:12:36 PM
Well I have many email address, Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo etc, so with Thunderbird email client, it is 1 click to boot up Thunderbird to gather up all my email messages. :-)

I've been using Thunderbird for 2 days now. It's okay. I miss my Vim editor, though.

One question... Thunderbird's font is too small. Is there any way to make it bigger. On the main viewing area, I can <ctrl-plus>, <ctrl-minus>,or <ctrl-mouse-wheel> to change the font. But, other labels are too small.

ssfc72 · February 06, 2021, 01:51:15 AM

The version of Thunderbird that is on my Mint 19, is 1:18.10

Here is a Link to one solution - https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1297871 This worked for me.

I found that on the Thunderbird that I have, just to the left of the Search bar, is the hamburg icon. Click on that and you can drill down and get to the Font changes. Trouble is, I make the change to the Font size and it does nothing?? :-(

William · February 06, 2021, 05:10:02 AM

Thanks Bill. Not a perfect solution, but that will do.

fox · February 06, 2021, 08:25:57 AM

I haven't been able to change the font size in Thunderbird either. If anyone finds a solution, please post.

Jason · February 06, 2021, 11:01:40 AM

I didn't realize there was a font issue with Thunderbird. That would preclude me from using it as I need larger fonts with everything unless I use a magnifying glass.

I'm also curious, Bill, you can get your Yahoo mail via Thunderbird? Do they have a POP3/IMAP server without having to pay for the premium edition? Maybe I'm just stuck back in the 2000s when you needed one to get that feature.

fox · February 06, 2021, 12:47:42 PM

You can magnify the text in messages - ctrl +. The menus are the problem.

ssfc72 · February 06, 2021, 01:13:40 PM

Thanks for that tip, Mike. I usually am looking at my Thunderbird email, on a 22 inch monitor, so I don't notice any problem with the font sizes. :-)
I will have to test it out on my notebook computer screen (Dell XPS 13" )

Jason · February 06, 2021, 01:16:01 PM

Quote from: fox on February 06, 2021, 12:47:42 PM
You can magnify the text in messages - ctrl +. The menus are the problem.

Yeah, I realize. William mentioned that. But not being able to see the menus would be an issue, too. But it doesn't really matter. I don't expect to use Thunderbird, at least not now.

ssfc72 · February 06, 2021, 01:23:04 PM

Yes, I have always used POP3 to get my yahoo email, using Thunderbird.

Quote from: Jason Wallwork on February 06, 2021, 11:01:40 AM
I didn't realize there was a font issue with Thunderbird. That would preclude me from using it as I need larger fonts with everything unless I use a magnifying glass.

I'm also curious, Bill, you can get your Yahoo mail via Thunderbird? Do they have a POP3/IMAP server without having to pay for the premium edition? Maybe I'm just stuck back in the 2000s when you needed one to get that feature.