You can now upgrade your Mint 19.3 installation to Mint 20. Instructions are here (https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/2485).
Thanks for sharing, Fox. :) I wonder how many people actually do a Timeshift snapshot before they do the upgrade? Or at least backup their data? Just sayin' as a reminder to everyone, to at least do the latter. It's all too easy to write over your /home accidentally.
I probably have a timeshare backup, but that's not the way I did it. I cloned my Mint 19.3 partition and installed it on an internal spinning drive. That's what I upgraded to test it. It took hours, and I got tired of this so I stopped it. Rebooted, and so far it seems to be working. But I wasn't impressed with the process, vs Ubuntu. I'm still testing, but if it's OK, I'll upgrade the "real" Mint partition.
Looks like a bit of a pain. May instead reinstall but not format /home. No real rush. I can also test the process in virtual. Have two of them on different machines.
Quote from: buster on July 09, 2020, 10:29:43 PM
Looks like a bit of a pain. May instead reinstall but not format /home. No real rush. I can also test the process in virtual. Have two of them on different machines.
So you have a separate /home partition or drive?
"So you have a separate /home partition or drive?"
Only when installed on a real drive, not in virtual.So you have a separate /home partition or drive?
This particular mint has travelled thru machines and a clone. Many upgrades, but used a 'fresh install' only twice, keeping the /home partition.
Update on my upgrade. Everything seems to be working OK, except that the Flat Remix icons donââ,¬â,,¢t fully work on Mint 20. I just switched to a different icon theme. Interestingly, I can boot into the 4.15 kernel and VirtualBox 6.1 works in it, which it wouldnââ,¬â,,¢t on Ubuntu 20.04. Other apps I have to install from outside sources seem to be working, too: insync, Simplenote, Zoom, and my stat apps. The 5.4 kernel boots, but takes the usual 4 minutes to load on my 5k iMac, but I expected that. Iââ,¬â,,¢ll check a few more things and if OK, Iââ,¬â,,¢ll upgrade my regular 19.3 partition on the SSD.
Did the upgrade on a virtual machine Mint. However, anything I report has to understood in the context of an 11 year old computer with a Win10 host. Not much memory, an old cpu, and a spinning disc hd.
#1. As Mike said it's a loooooong process.
#2. You can do other things on a different computer, read, or watch TV, but once in awhile you need to check it. You are required to say yes or go to the next step.
#3. The process is quite simple and straight forward. I started from the 'special notice' that came up bottom right, and used the link Mike gave for instructions.
#4. Do all the updates before you do your timeshift save. In fact you probably wont get a notice to upgrade until all up updates are done. When you think all updates are done, do a refresh and update again if anything shows. It did on mine.
#5. The two bits of software I use to enable perfect interactions between host and virtual, when being fixed, brought everything almost to a standstill, but after a reboot, things seemed ok.
I'll test more tomorrow maybe. When I do my Linux box, things should be easier with a better cpu, more memory, and an ssd. I'll get back.
Quote from: BusterE on July 10, 2020, 02:10:45 PM
Only when installed on a real drive, not in virtual.So you have a separate /home partition or drive?
Don't you recall my topic where I talked about how I did this and asked if anyone else did?
Quote from: buster on July 10, 2020, 10:19:02 PM
Did the upgrade on a virtual machine Mint.
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#2. You can do other things on a different computer, read, or watch TV, but once in awhile you need to check it. You are required to say yes or go to the next step.
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Forgot to mention that. This is an upgrade you can't just leave running on its own.
"Don't you recall my topic where I talked about how I did this and asked if anyone else did?"
Yes, but because I can't remember my password, most of my systems do not have me signed into PLUG. So often I read a thread and think I'll respond tomorrow or the next day on my main OS. But things distract me and I forget.
Sorry.
Upon further testing, I had some minor problems with the Mendeley reference manager, but it was fixable with instructions on Mendeley's website. Also, the Flat Remix icon theme has been updated, and it now works. So there doesn't seem to be any downside to upgrading, at least in my system with the apps I use. On the other hand, there doesn't seem to be any big reason to upgrade either. It won't buy me more time unless a future update fixes the slow boot and shutdown I experience on the 5.4 LTS kernel.
Forgot to mention, as did Mike, that within the little message you get (bottom right of screen) to start the update, there is also a link to the instructions. Nicely organized.
Curious to see how my 'real' Mint does during update with an ssd compared to a virtual on an old computer with a spinning disc. Maybe next week.
Quote from: buster on July 11, 2020, 08:06:29 AM
"Don't you recall my topic where I talked about how I did this and asked if anyone else did?"
Yes, but because I can't remember my password, most of my systems do not have me signed into PLUG. So often I read a thread and think I'll respond tomorrow or the next day on my main OS. But things distract me and I forget.
Sorry.
I checked and you responded but you were asking about RAID so I think my post was misinterpreted as asking if anyone was using it. I was confused; no need to be sorry. And yes, I use /home on a separate "drive" which is actually 4 drives that appear as one. It's the old HDD kind though so not terribly fast which is why I might move my few VMs to a place on / which is on an SDD.
As for your forgotten password, the email system on the forum isn't working right now (don't know if it ever will) so you can't get a password retrieved. However, I can reset it to one I choose. Then I'll email it to you and you can log in and change it. Just send me a private message on here and I'll get it reset. I assume it's your 'Buster' account.
" you can log in and change it"
I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE IT!"
I like having most of my systems such that I can't reply right away. Now to reply I have to make an effort. And when I think about it for awhile, I realize a reply isn't necessary. And then I get off the stupid computer and do something else.
So...... while it rained I upgraded a different virtual Mint to 20.
1. It is significantly quicker on a better machine.
2. drag and drop didn't work. Had to delete and reinstall open-vm-tools-desktop. Easy enough to figure out, but still a pain.
While one computer was doing this I was listening to Joni Mitchel on a different Mint 19.3 system which is attached to really good speakers. To fully appreciate her you have to, in my opinion, read the lyrics of the poetry of the songs as you listen. I was using Amarok which scrolls the lyrics as they progress with her voice.
3. Amarok is discontinued upstream in Debian Buster. Even the new Kubuntu doesn't have it. So need some kind of replacement that shows lyrics - not easy. RhythmBox doesn't do lyrics.
4. Used Synaptic to get Clementine. It starts to open and shuts down.
Thought I might leave Mint 19.3 forever on my best linux machine. Did research today and found it's not just me. Need
sudo apt install akonadi-backend-sqlite
So I'll test this sometime. No rush. Time to get outside in the cool weather.
Used sudo apt install akonadi-backend-sqlite after a walk. Told I had to allow a new library scan, and this turned out not to be a scan of music files, but of all the libs in Linux. Took awhile but it worked.
Clementine does display the lyrics, but does not scroll them. Manageable.
My Mint beta that I upgraded to Mint 20 had a similar problem as well I think. No longer sure anymore I've done so much with 4 Mint systems. Probably be fixed by Mint personnel soon.
Whole thing like using Linux 15 years ago.
Thanks for the mention about the use of Amarok to listen to songs and see the lyrics, Buster.
You must have to do something to get Amarok to go get the lyrics on the internet. Maybe you could post a separate topic on the Forums, on Amarok and setting up lyrics to be streamed while a song is being played?
I am still running Mint 19.1 so it appears Amarok is still available through Synaptic.
Quote from: buster on July 12, 2020, 10:16:46 AM
So...... while it rained I upgraded a different virtual Mint to 20.
1. It is significantly quicker on a better machine.
2. drag and drop didn't work. Had to delete and reinstall open-vm-tools-desktop. Easy enough to figure out, but still a pain.
While one computer was doing this I was listening to Joni Mitchel on a different Mint 19.3 system which is attached to really good speakers. To fully appreciate her you have to, in my opinion, read the lyrics of the poetry of the songs as you listen. I was using Amarok which scrolls the lyrics as they progress with her voice.
3. Amarok is discontinued upstream in Debian Buster. Even the new Kubuntu doesn't have it. So need some kind of replacement that shows lyrics - not easy. RhythmBox doesn't do lyrics.
4. Used Synaptic to get Clementine. It starts to open and shuts down.
Thought I might leave Mint 19.3 forever on my best linux machine. Did research today and found it's not just me. Need
sudo apt install akonadi-backend-sqlite
So I'll test this sometime. No rush. Time to get outside in the cool weather.
"You must have to do something to get Amarok to go get the lyrics on the internet. Maybe you could post a separate topic on the Forums, on Amarok and setting up lyrics to be streamed while a song is being played?"
No. Lets do it right here, though it is a long and arduous process. (May require a PhD in Engineering!)
1. Turn on your computer.
2. Open Amarok.
3. Play some music that you have as a file. Have another album ready in case no one did the lyrics.
4. Try to get Amarok to look like the included picture, tho other configurations work too.
5. Near the bottom if you poke about, you should see the button to click that says 'lyrics'.
6. Click this.
7. Try a different album if this doesn't work.
The REAL problem is getting it set up so the 'lyrics' button shows.
I did the Mint 20 upgrade on my regular SSD partition. Much, much faster than on the spinning drive; took under an hour. All seems to be working fine.
That's pretty quick. Much of my time was used before the upgrade doing updates and using Timeshift.
Quote from: buster on July 11, 2020, 10:49:58 PM
" you can log in and change it"
I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE IT!"
I like having most of my systems such that I can't reply right away. Now to reply I have to make an effort. And when I think about it for awhile, I realize a reply isn't necessary. And then I get off the stupid computer and do something else.
You said that you forgot it. So, you can't reply at all on those machines, right? That's why I was suggesting that I could reset it for you. But if you have no use of the Buster account, cool. I thought you still used it.
" if you have no use of the Buster account, cool. I thought you still used it."
I'm using the Buster account right now! I don't know the password, but my trusty laptop does.
If you are using Win 10 on that laptop, the the following Link might show you what you password is. I haven't tried this myself, but it might be an interesting project for you to delve into.
https://www.online-tech-tips.com/computer-tips/find-hidden-saved-passwords-windows/
Did you just give a Windows 10 tip here, Bill? Back to the woodshed for you, young man! ;-)
I was feeling left out so I downloaded Linux Mint 19.3 and installed it on a virtual machine and installed all the updates. Then I upgraded it to LM 20. It took about 25 minute and went without a hiccup. I wonder if maybe those that had 2 hours or more was a result of downloading when it was first released? Or perhaps having some third party repos or PPAs enabled before doing the upgrade?
" It took about 25 minute and went without a hiccup."
Showoff. Could be we can't afford all your fancydan new equipment and have to use old disguarded stuff we got from dumpsters.
Quote from: BusterE on July 14, 2020, 08:04:48 PM
" It took about 25 minute and went without a hiccup."
Showoff. Could be we can't afford all your fancydan new equipment and have to use old disguarded stuff we got from dumpsters.
I was actually had my i5 given to me. :) But it might have went easily because because there were no other packages installed. It was a vanilla install.