https://distrowatch.com/?newsid=10992
Thanks Bill. Takes me back ten years to when Mepis ruled with KDE on a Debian base, and that was my favourite everyday Linux.
Even though this is an RC release I think I'll try it. Xfce just doesn't work for me.
From the picture shown on Distrowatch, it looks like they set up the Plasma desktop to resemble the XFCE version. Looks nice.
I noted that it uses the 4.18 kernel, which runs well on my 5k iMac. Any idea how long that kernel will be supported (by MX or Debian)?
Getting into the torrent file to download shows signs of a hammered server. Can't get in.
https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20200817#torrent
works well
Stuff works better for me than it did in xfce - even drag and drop after some poking. Looks pretty good. Haven't looked too closely but have a feeling it's behind Kubuntu and way behind Neon for software releases, tho that doesn't affect me too much. Had to chase around to get Synaptic, figure things out. Older kernel if you have new equipment.
Sound worked with default Clementine.
Two sources for things - plasma and mxlinux. Bit weird. Lots of tools. My graphics tests were both good for a vm.
SORRY: I am totally wrong on stuff. You can easily look up things from this photo.
You made a nice looking desktop there, Buster. But I noticed on your image that your kernel is 5.6, not 4.18 as noted for MX 19.2 in DistroWatch. Did you do a kernel upgrade to get 5.6?
As usual I did the absolute minimum. That apparently is the default for the plasma mx. I know you saw something different earlier. Maybe the xfce and plasma have different kernels ?
Quote from: buster on August 17, 2020, 10:52:19 AM
Getting into the torrent file to download shows signs of a hammered server. Can't get in.
That's odd because torrents should be easier to get when there are more people downloading since there are more peers. The only server is the one hosting the .torrent file which just list the servers that provide the initial seeding.
Quote from: buster on August 17, 2020, 03:34:49 PM
Stuff works better for me than it did in xfce - even drag and drop after some poking.
Drag and drop within the OS filesystem or between the guest and host?
Between host and guest. Xfce just doesn't like me as a vm.
Suspect the addition of a Plasma desktop will make MXLinux even more popular. Am curious about the two kernels, but not curious enough t go looking. :)
And Jason, the torrent site on the mx site just showed a 'we're trying' movement but never got in. The torrent site I found was on Distrowatch, but NOT the one on the front page, which didn't work either, but on the Monday Distrowatch Weekly torrent corner. Agree, a torrent site shouldn't have any hesitation, unless maybe a million hits confuses it I guess.
Quote from: buster on August 17, 2020, 07:02:20 PM
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Maybe the xfce and plasma have different kernels ?
On DistroWatch, the kernel information was for both XFCE and Plasma versions. According to this MX current release features site (https://mxlinux.org/current-release-features/), the default kernel is 4.18, and 5.6 is available as AHS (advanced hardware system). So you must have installed it yourself.
When the little green box showed bottom right (top left in their xfce desktop)I clicked and let it update packages. Never even watched. Do remember it didn't require a reboot.
Their manual that's on the desktop is, I think, the best and clearest manual of any distro in existence. And that fame goes right back to Mepis.
Picked this up using a search for mx kde 19.2 kernel
"MX-19.2 KDE is an Advanced Hardware Support (AHS) enabled 64-bit only version of MX featuring the KDE/plasma desktop. Applications utilizing Qt library frameworks are given a preference for inclusion on the iso."
This would indicate the download iso I got has the newer kernel. However, if you have a geriatric computer that you're working with, you might be able to get a dusty old kernel installed after if it boots.
And on the same page:
KDE/plasma 5.14.5 (current Debian buster version)
GIMP 2.10.12
MESA 20.0.7 (AHS)
MX AHS firmware package
Debian (AHS) 5.6 kernel
Browser: Firefox 79
Video Player: VLC 3.0.11
Music Manager/Player: Clementine 1.3.1
Email client: Thunderbird 68.11
Office suite: LibreOffice 6.1.5 (plus security fixes) (debian-backports version available in MX-Packageinstaller->Popular Apps)
And I was just in their forums and found this, which shows the xfce and kde ship with different kernels:
Xfce 4.14
GIMP 2.10.12
MESA 18.3.6 (20.0.7 ahs)
updated firmware
Latest debian 4.19 kernel (5.6 ahs)
Browser: Firefox 76
Video Player: VLC 3.0.10
Music Manager/Player: Clementine 1.3.1
Email client: Thunderbird 68.6.1
Office suite: LibreOffice 6.1.5 (plus security fixes) (6.4 available in MX-Packageinstaller->Popular Apps)
and more in the MX repositories.
I have more or less verified what you just said. I downloaded the live usb and booted it up on my 5k iMac. Took 3-4 minutes to boot, so I wasn't surprised that the kernel was 5.6. Too bad; looks nice even without tweaking it.
MX Package Installer seems to have a way to change the kernel back. Look at the tab stable rpo. type in 4.19. Could try that on the live. When installed you can choose to keep changes you made.
"geriatric computer" <--- are you going to just take that, Fox? ;-)
Jason, I think he's running out of money and can't afford a newer computer. I suppose I should be more gentle.
I booted my Kubuntu just to compare since they both run Plasma. You can scroll between the two pictures for Kubuntu and MX kde now.