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Meetings / Re: Presentation from creator of PrivacyTests.org?
« Last post by BrianP on Today at 05:05:27 pm »
Sure sounds good  to me!
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Distributions / Re: Mint Upgrade notice
« Last post by ssfc72 on Today at 03:48:27 am »
There is now, just an new System Reports icon, next to the Update icon, on the Tool Bar, that  when I click on it, says there is a new version of Mint. It has an icon button to start the upgrade. This is does not annoy me, so I just ignore it.
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Distributions / Re: Mint Upgrade notice
« Last post by Jason on Yesterday at 12:00:36 pm »
I have been getting pestered with an upgrade notice to Mint 20.3, for the last 2 days.  I don't normally upgrade unless I have a good reason to do so, but this is the first time since I started using Mint, that I got a specific notice asking me if I want to upgrade.

Were you able to find how to turn off these notifications in the Mint Update tool or Software Sources? Or are you even getting them anymore?
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I thought this was interesting. It's amazing what even amateurs have to contribute to astronomy!

https://www.lsu.edu/mediacenter/news/2022/01/18physastro_boyajian_lcam1.php
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Distributions / Re: Mint Upgrade notice
« Last post by Jason on January 20, 2022, 05:56:38 pm »
I didn't believe you at first so I looked it up. You can understand why I thought that, though? Generally, the installation of a package does NOT run it. But you're correct so I appreciate you letting me know. I learned something.

It does seem like a bad idea to run a program you're merely installing but the developers must know something I don't or just that it's not big of a deal as it won't break anything else.

As I mentioned, you don't really need to worry about if this post on Linux Forums is accurate. It says that the filesystem has already been changed since 20.1. So Mr. Smartypants got that right. :)
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Distributions / Re: Mint Upgrade notice
« Last post by buster on January 20, 2022, 02:14:05 pm »


From the Mint forums themselves : "You don't need to do anything other than install the package usrmerge. As the instructions say, just run the command apt install usrmerge and that installs it. The package does everything on its own. There's no other command to run.

Just noting that Mr Smartypants on our forum wrote : "In any case, the command you mentioned doesn't do anything other than installing the package usrmerge. You have to run the command for it to do anything."
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Meetings / Re: Presentation from creator of PrivacyTests.org?
« Last post by Jason on January 20, 2022, 10:47:54 am »
Good idea. We'll invite them. Since this presentation isn't just specific to Linux, I think they'd find it informative.

I'll try and get back to you guys over the weekend. I also think I'm going to send out an email to our group to see how much interest there is. With you guys, I know a few people will be coming but I'd like to find out if more would be.
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Distributions / Re: Mint Upgrade notice
« Last post by Jason on January 20, 2022, 10:45:02 am »
After I got over the shock of Buster using the terminal for something (what? no graphical substitute?), I looked into what this was. Admit it, Buster, you have to use the command-line for some things, but maybe not this... read on.

I hadn't heard of usrmerge so I looked it up. Btw, I don't think you've had to do that for quite a while. It's for older setups. But if you've been upgrading Mint for years, then you might have had to do it once but not every time you upgrade. But it's easy to check before you install it. Run the following command and see if you have the same (or at least close) to my root (/) layout.

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ls -a /
You're looking to see if directories like /bin, /sbin and so on, actually point to /usr/bin, etc.

Some quick research revealed the purpose of usrmerge. It's for compatibility. Some tools (system-level programs) used to be /bin and some were in /usr/bin. The system layout has been adjusted so that all the tools have been moved to /usr/bin. That's why the name of the package is usrmerge and it's what it does.

Now, if they had just transferred the tools in /bin to /usr/bin then scripts that were hardcoded to expect stuff in /bin would have broken. So now there's a pointer so that whenever a tool in /bin is referred to, the appropriate tool in it's new location in  /usr/bin is called up. The same goes for other tools that were in /sbin, /lib, and so on.

In any case, the command you mentioned doesn't do anything other than installing the package usrmerge. You have to run the command for it to do anything.  As Buster helpfully corrected me on, installing the package, in this case, runs it (i.e. does the merge and creates the symlinks). Weird.

But I doubt you'd need to install/use usrmerge. I could be wrong; there's always a first time. ;) Or a second, and a third, and a 100th.
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Distributions / Re: Mint Upgrade notice
« Last post by buster on January 19, 2022, 05:07:43 pm »
Also applied 'apt install usrmerge' if anyone cares, though I have a feeling I did that on the last upgrade. So far OK.
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Distributions / Re: Mint Upgrade notice
« Last post by buster on January 19, 2022, 04:58:53 pm »
Marilyn's computer got the 20.3 notice today. As with Dr Mike, the upgrade was simple and uneventful. Goes to 2025 apparently.

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