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Title: June 3rd, Gentoo and it's already starting with a bang.
Post by: cod3poet on May 27, 2019, 05:56:02 PM
So it was asked about doing a Gentoo presentation, so I am starting the whole download the ISO and start / document the install process as I have NO IDEA how long it will take to do a presentation.

Dry run #1 tonight is met with the attached Image. My hope is to provide updates here BEFORE the meeting so we can spark a little more conversation instead of having it be a follow the bouncing ball meeting.

Also it will give me a chance to demo things that have been asked for directly here.

Title: Re: June 3rd, Gentoo and it's already starting with a bang.
Post by: Jason on May 27, 2019, 06:14:48 PM
That doesn't look neighbourly at all. Are you doing it via the handbook? When I was trying to work it through that way I didn't have to get sources from kernel.org, was able to get them through a gentoo mirror. Might be preferred too as they seem to be using a different kernel than the vanilla one. But I was also doing the AMD64 version, not sure if you're installing it something different.
Title: Re: June 3rd, Gentoo and it's already starting with a bang.
Post by: buster on May 27, 2019, 06:21:15 PM
What is the probable presentation in June, he asked with disappointment in his heart?
Title: Re: June 3rd, Gentoo and it's already starting with a bang.
Post by: buster on May 27, 2019, 06:30:55 PM
Calculate is an option as a beginner Gentoo. Here's a Distrowatch review:

https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20170724#calculate
Title: Re: June 3rd, Gentoo and it's already starting with a bang.
Post by: cod3poet on May 28, 2019, 10:50:09 AM
I was able to get the correct ISO from the a different site but it was a little disheartening to get chrome redwalled. I can do a bottom up Gentoo Install like I did with arch but it may be a recording rather than a live demo then a tour of the post installed system.
Title: Re: June 3rd, Gentoo and it's already starting with a bang.
Post by: Jason on May 28, 2019, 11:37:56 AM
Quote from: cod3poet on May 28, 2019, 10:50:09 AM
I was able to get the correct ISO from the a different site but it was a little disheartening to get chrome redwalled. I can do a bottom up Gentoo Install like I did with arch but it may be a recording rather than a live demo then a tour of the post installed system.

That sounds good to me. Not sure what to do about Chrome but Firefox should be able to do everything that Chrome can.
Title: Re: June 3rd, Gentoo and it's already starting with a bang.
Post by: cod3poet on May 28, 2019, 08:35:10 PM
The 2gb LiveDVD allows for a KDE Plasma desktop, and the minimal 200mb iso just gives you commandline and DHCP with 96 MB used.

However there is a handbook to be followed and it's only available online - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64   go figure down the rabbit hole I go!
Title: Re: June 3rd, Gentoo and it's already starting with a bang.
Post by: buster on May 31, 2019, 11:05:06 PM
How is the install going?
Title: Re: June 3rd, Gentoo and it's already starting with a bang.
Post by: cod3poet on May 31, 2019, 11:07:12 PM
Manually. Essentially you build the partitions and then "flash" a base image to the partition then build from there. A little different than the Chroot option that I am accustomed to with Arch. Should be interesting though I am sure there will be a ton more questions and I welcome them!
Title: Re: June 3rd, Gentoo and it's already starting with a bang.
Post by: Jason on June 01, 2019, 02:05:19 PM
It does do chroot after the base image has been created, although you've possibly already noticed that by now.
Title: Re: June 3rd, Gentoo and it's already starting with a bang.
Post by: cod3poet on June 02, 2019, 11:51:17 AM
Sitting here with my son, working though the "gentoo install" <- typed by my son :) and we are working on the presentation together.

"mom is working by" <- also my son

We may have a special guest for the presentation on Tuesday.

P.s. I have a new toy.
Title: Re: June 3rd, Gentoo and it's already starting with a bang.
Post by: Jason on June 02, 2019, 11:58:10 PM
32 threads? So jealous!
Title: Re: June 3rd, Gentoo and it's already starting with a bang.
Post by: ssfc72 on June 03, 2019, 10:04:01 AM
The June PLUG meeting is our last regular meeting until next September.
I hope everyone can make the meeting tonight!

Bill
Title: Re: June 3rd, Gentoo and it's already starting with a bang.
Post by: ssfc72 on June 03, 2019, 07:25:11 PM
Brian, are you coming to do your demo, tonight?
Title: Re: June 3rd, Gentoo and it's already starting with a bang.
Post by: cod3poet on June 03, 2019, 11:57:01 PM
Just going to leave this here. Thanks folks for the wonderful chat and the patience.
Title: Re: June 3rd, Gentoo and it's already starting with a bang.
Post by: buster on June 04, 2019, 01:32:32 PM
I really enjoyed the evening before and during the presentation. I must complain that too many in the audience said openly that they would not be willing to give up family, food and sleep to install Gentoo. Where is the spirit of learning, of dedication, of riding, admittedly at a snails pace, into new lands?

I will also openly complain that there was too much banter and laughing, too many comical remarks, too much self indulgent enjoyment when we should all have been seriously taking notes for our own install of the tedious but important install of our own Gentoo.

Thanks Brian

Title: Re: June 3rd, Gentoo and it's already starting with a bang.
Post by: cod3poet on June 05, 2019, 09:28:16 AM
You sir added so much to that conversation I am extremely grateful. It was interesting to take a deeper dive past the technical and get more into the dare I say "philosophical" reasons for approaching software from a source first approach albeit a curated and managed approach.

But even still when I got home there were many more steps to complete, and just when I thought I was ready to reboot into my fresh gentoo environment I was left with a quandary. Because I chose a single volume partition and did not split boot. It will not boot which means no family time food or work until I get it resolved. Either that or hit the oops button and hunker down for another 6 hours to start it all over again.

ONWARD!
Title: Re: June 3rd, Gentoo and it's already starting with a bang.
Post by: buster on June 05, 2019, 10:56:09 AM
Monday was a lot of fun!

If Gentoo consumes this much time for you to install, with what you know, probably I don't have enough years of life left to get my install up and running.

You wrote, "and hunker down for another 6 hours to start it all over again". In that time you could also, instead, from my experiences, install 18 other Linux distros