Ok, so I installed Amarok on my Mint 19.1 notebook computer. I downloaded an mp3 Phil Collins song but Amarok said there were no lyrics.
The song was an mp3 file, so I suspect maybe I would have to rip the songs from a music CD, in order to get Amarok to scroll the lyrics???
" Amarok said there were no lyrics."
It's probably not a problem at Amarok's end. It's probably at the site where the lyrics come from. Take a look at included link, and if the lyrics are there, find a spot in Amarok (preferences?) that can turn the site on. Something in there should do it. However there are all kinds of songs without their lyrics uploaded. I have an album where only about half the songs show lyrics.
https://www.lyrics.com/
Remember in the olden days, Bill, that songs would show artwork with certain music programs? It wasn't included with the MP3 file, it used certain internet sites that have album art with the MP3 and matched it. Same here. It pulls the info from a lyric directory or directories online.
I wish that Rhythmbox did this.
Quote from: fox on July 14, 2020, 04:29:16 PM
I wish that Rhythmbox did this.
Check your plugins.
So, I still can't get the Lyrics to show. Seems to be setup for Lyrics and I don'y see anything else to setup.
In trying to get the Lyrics to show I manage to get Amarok to crash. It complained that there was no KDE Text editor. I went into synaptic and the only KDE text editor I could see, was installed.
Amarok kept crashing and complaining about " no KDE text editor"
I uninstalled and then re-installed Amarok and still got the crashing and "no KDE text editor, complaint. :-(
I then installed and tried Clementine. I was unable to get the Lyrics to show. :-(
It looked to me, from the Preferences that Clementine was setup for Lyrics.
As per help from Buster, I downloaded the song, Song To A Seagull by Joni Mtchell, as an mp3 file, from YouTube. The song played but there were no Lyrics. :-(
Seems to make no sense Bill.
-you are on the Internet as you test?
-in Clementine you click song info bottom left, or in Amarok lyrics bottom centre?
-you are in Mint 19.3?
-did you hit your laptop with a hammer?
-have you been reading your Bible?
Baffles me. Minutes ago tested Clemetine in Win10 and Mint 20. Perfect in both! Whatver the problem is, it affects both pieces of software.
Included a picture of Clementine playing on Mint 20. Note the similarities to Amarok. Clementine is a fork of Amarok, and plays on Linux, Win10 and apple machines.
Could someone else test it?
And just for good luck, I tested it in Kubuntu with a different album, a Canadian jazz singer. I have never done anything ever to get Clementine or Amarok to work. They just do.
And here's another pic to make you gnash your teeth in frustration Bill. Taken on Kubuntu 20.
I know, this is 3 posts in a few minutes, but I think Clementine is worth considering for your music software. The following is the description given by Synaptic:
Clementine is a multiplatform music player focusing on a fast and
easy-to-use interface for searching and playing your music.
Summary of included features :
- Search and play your local music library.
- Listen to internet radio from SomaFM, Magnatune, Jamendo, Intergalactic FM,
Digitally Imported, JAZZRADIO.com, ROCKRADIO.com, RadioTunes.com,
Soundcloud, Icecast and Subsonic servers.
- Search and play songs you've uploaded to Box, Dropbox, Google Drive, and
OneDrive.
- Create smart playlists and dynamic playlists.
- Tabbed playlists, import and export M3U, XSPF, PLS and ASX.
- CUE sheet support.
- Play audio CDs.
- Visualisations from projectM.
- Lyrics and artist biographies and photos.
- Transcode music into MP3, Ogg Vorbis, Ogg Speex, FLAC or AAC.
- Edit tags on MP3 and OGG files, organise your music.
- Fetch missing tags from MusicBrainz.
- Discover and download Podcasts.
- Download missing album cover art from Last.fm.
- Native desktop notifications using libnotify.
- Remote control using an Android device, a Wii Remote, MPRIS or the
command-line.
- Copy music to your iPod, iPhone, MTP or mass-storage USB player.
- Queue manager.
It is largely a port of Amarok 1.4, with some features rewritten to take
advantage of Qt4.
By the way, all Ubuntu derivatives have a mistake - Clementine downloads but wont open. Use this after the download:
sudo apt install akonadi-backend-sqlite
If it helps, the default KDE text editor is called Kate. But i have no idea why it would want to open this.
"If it helps, the default KDE text editor is called Kate. But i have no idea why it would want to open this."
Agree. I doubt I have Kate on my Mint 19.3 that plays Amarok.
Strangely, I can't find Amarok in the list of packages for Kubuntu 20.04 or Linux Mint 20. Perhaps they found the problem you're having now with the crashing and lyrics not coming up and they pulled it from the repo that it came from?
Is this you (https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=324830&p=1847013&hilit=amarok&sid=ea82f368da9f289d1c14fb1253ef98e4#p1847013), Buster?
"Strangely, I can't find Amarok in the list of packages for Kubuntu 20.04 or Linux Mint 20. "
Amarok is no longer available in any of the new distros. It has pretty well expired.
Use Clementine.
I have Mint 19.1 on this notebook computer.
In my Clementine install, clicking on "song info" does nothing
In Amarock, clicking on Lyrics does nothing.
Yes, I am connected to the Internet.
Quote from: buster on July 15, 2020, 09:46:05 AM
Seems to make no sense Bill.
-you are on the Internet as you test?
-in Clementine you click song info bottom left, or in Amarok lyrics bottom centre?
-you are in Mint 19.3?
-did you hit your laptop with a hammer?
-have you been reading your Bible?
Baffles me. Minutes ago tested Clemetine in Win10 and Mint 20. Perfect in both! Whatver the problem is, it affects both pieces of software.
Included a picture of Clementine playing on Mint 20. Note the similarities to Amarok. Clementine is a fork of Amarok, and plays on Linux, Win10 and apple machines.
Could someone else test it?
"I have Mint 19.1 on this notebook computer.
In my Clementine install, clicking on "song info" does nothing
In Amarock, clicking on Lyrics does nothing.
Yes, I am connected to the Internet."
Bill, by any chance my unlucky man, are you running that piece of crap desktop interface Xfce? I've used Clementine easily on KDE and Cinnamon.
By the way I can never get drag and drop to work with an Xfce desktop guest. It is a bit stripped down.
Quote from: buster on July 15, 2020, 02:28:19 PM
Use Clementine.
I have a tiny amount of mp3 files. I use Spotify for streaming music and it can play those files, too.
Quote from: buster on July 15, 2020, 06:01:22 PM
Bill, by any chance my unlucky man, are you running that piece of crap desktop interface Xfce? I've used Clementine easily on KDE and Cinnamon.
Not sure why that would matter. The Desktop Environment should be independent of the software. Occasionally the appearance is messed up if a program was designed in Gnome, for example, and you use it in Plasma. But functionality shouldn't be changed unless the program depends on software from the other DE which dependencies should resolve.
One thing you could try is turning off your VPN temporarily. Maybe the website for lyrics (if there's just one) is blocking VPNs.
"The Desktop Environment should be independent of the software."
Agreed, but I found using open-vm-tools-desktop depended very much on the desktop, including MXLinux, Ubuntu Lite, and I believe Ubuntu Mate. However Plasma, Cinnamon and Deepin all work well.
Just tested Peppermint, and the scrolling worked, and I think it uses a combo desktop taken from Xfce and Lubuntu.
Bill, if you are really wanting to follow this up, I can install Mint 19.3 xfce and test it. it. Should take about about 20 minutes. Far better for you to install Clementine on your Win 10 and test it. But out of curiosity I can try it if you want.
Quote from: buster on July 15, 2020, 07:32:48 PM
"The Desktop Environment should be independent of the software."
Agreed, but I found using open-vm-tools-desktop depended very much on the desktop, including MXLinux, Ubuntu Lite, and I believe Ubuntu Mate.
Yeah, but that's different because it involves a package intimately tied to the VM. The DE has to "talk" to the host.
I was following up on your supposition to Bill that Xfce might be to blame for Clementine not working properly. I don't think he's running LM 19.3 in a VM guest although maybe I missed that. I could see it not looking right. For example, transmission looks really weird in Kubuntu until you install the qt version of it. It's fully functional, it just looks terrible.
Well now William. The problem has to reside with the computer, the Mint install, or the person tapping the keys. Put the xfce mint 19.3 in virtual and it played and showed the lyrics instantly.
This is the bringer of bad news, signing off. Try to get some sleep tonight, maybe watch a black and white movie from the old days. Maybe switch to Microsoft or Apple.
Buster
I am running Mint 19.1 Cinnamon
I am not using any VPN.
I am going to use my other notebook computer, which is a Dell XPS 13 running MXLinux and see if I can get Amaroke or Clementine to show the Lyrics of a song that I play.
Quote from: buster on July 15, 2020, 06:01:22 PM
"I have Mint 19.1 on this notebook computer.
In my Clementine install, clicking on "song info" does nothing
In Amarock, clicking on Lyrics does nothing.
Yes, I am connected to the Internet."
Bill, by any chance my unlucky man, are you running that piece of crap desktop interface Xfce? I've used Clementine easily on KDE and Cinnamon.
By the way I can never get drag and drop to work with an Xfce desktop guest. It is a bit stripped down.
No luck with the Dell XPS 13" with Lyrics showing on MXLinux with the Clementine player. I downloaded a music song from YouTube.
Buster, is your music player subscribed to some sort of internet music service? Both Amoroke and Clementine have a whole list of music streaming services and cloud file storage sites, but you have to pay for most subscriptions and logon to the services. Maybe that is why you get the Lyrics showing up?
" I downloaded a music song from YouTube."
I suspect that wont work. The file you got wont have the necessary info built into it I think. If you can, go to tpb and, with your vpn running, download say a popular Joni Mitchell album and try that after you turn your vpn off.
I subscribe to nothing really, not even Spotify. Right after the install it just worked - the lyrics showed when I clicked Lyrics in Amarok, and song info in Clementine. Last few days I tested this in 6 different OS's. They all worked.
MXLinux could be a problem as well, tho not sure why it would be. Xfce is not a favourite of mine.
Sorry Bill.
I downloaded MXLinux and the install took under 10 minutes. Getting the stupid thing to work took another 30 - open-vm-tools!!!!
Anyway, got Clementine running, an album that I know worked, and lo and behold, the lyrics showed when I clicked Song Info. I even took a picture of it.
Hmmmmmm. Give me a call Bill and we'll chat. There has to be something simple.
I don't know what I changed, but the Lyrics to the Joni Mitchell song and Phil Collins song are now showing in Clementine???? This is on my Dell Inspiron notebook with Mint 19.1 Cinnamon.
I will try the Dell XPS 13" notebook with MXLinux and Clementine and see if I can also get the Lyrics to now start being shown.
The mysteries of software. Good ending to the struggle.
Cosmic rays, Bill. Cosmic rays (https://www.sciencealert.com/rogue-cosmic-rays-from-outer-space-are-causing-havoc-with-our-smartphones)...