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Title: Deepin reviewed positively on Distrowatch today
Post by: buster on October 05, 2020, 06:12:54 PM
Jesse: "I found I liked deepin's approach to most things. The desktop was attractive, faster than it was in the past, and worked well with my hardware."

https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20201005#deepin
Title: Re: Deepin reviewed positively on Distrowatch today
Post by: ssfc72 on October 06, 2020, 03:55:26 AM
Ahh, the Link takes me to Jesse's review of Nitrux??
Title: Re: Deepin reviewed positively on Distrowatch today
Post by: Jason on October 06, 2020, 04:56:03 AM
I noticed that, too. Strangely, most of the comments refer to Deepin. Did Jesse pull the review and substitute it with Nitrux for some reason?
Title: Re: Deepin reviewed positively on Distrowatch today
Post by: buster on October 06, 2020, 09:31:58 AM
My mistake. I should have posted a notice that says,

" Click this link only if you know how to use a computer, and only if your Internet works."

But I didn't so I accept the blame for that.
Title: Re: Deepin reviewed positively on Distrowatch today
Post by: Jason on October 06, 2020, 05:31:52 PM
Quote from: buster on October 06, 2020, 09:31:58 AM
My mistake. I should have posted a notice that says,

" Click this link only if you know how to use a computer, and only if your Internet works."

But I didn't so I accept the blame for that.

Huh? We weren't kidding you, Buster. The article wasn't there when we both visited. However, it's there now now. Wtf? That's "what the fuck" for the lass clever like a certain *ahem* older gentleman. So don't be a wise ass or I shall have to beat you with a stick. A Nerf stick, but a stick, nevertheless.
Title: Re: Deepin reviewed positively on Distrowatch today
Post by: buster on October 06, 2020, 06:56:31 PM
"The article wasn't there when we both visited."

Sure, sure. Next you're going to tell me the dog ate your homework.

I did read recently however that some failing video cards seem to bring in odd Internet artifacts, stray signals from who knows where. But the research on this is very new and esoteric.
Title: Re: Deepin reviewed positively on Distrowatch today
Post by: buster on October 12, 2020, 01:53:31 PM
So I downloaded deepin and installed it in virtual. It needs and demands 4 gig ram and 64 gig space! Also the install, where I normally just let the default partitions fall where they might, it had produced an odd selection of partitions, including 1 /recovery, 2 /roots, 1 /boot, a swap and and at least 1 /home.

After using it for awhile, I couldn't think of any reason why I would want to keep using it, though everything worked fine.

It was like trying on a pair of shoes that just don't quite feel right. So it is gone now.

Title: Re: Deepin reviewed positively on Distrowatch today
Post by: buster on October 12, 2020, 04:48:23 PM
I did manage to get some very nice desktop wallpapers from it, such as the one below. Harder to get than I thought it would be.
Title: Re: Deepin reviewed positively on Distrowatch today
Post by: Jason on October 12, 2020, 05:11:41 PM
What page did you find those requirements on? The only one I saw was in the Installation guide (https://www.deepin.org/en/installation/) that says it's 2 GB needed, 4 GB recommended and 25 GB to install. I wanted to see a screenshot of the partitions but you've already deleted it. :(

Btw, I noticed that the most review is of Nitrux. So there you have it, we were just seeing into the future. I guess your mind isn't advanced enough to do that yet. ;)
Title: Re: Deepin reviewed positively on Distrowatch today
Post by: buster on October 12, 2020, 09:26:22 PM
"What page did you find those requirements on? "

I never read about that stuff, I just install. I wasn't allowed to install until I met those requirements. Maybe virtual is different. It knew it was a virtual install because it noted that and gave me some advice.
Title: Re: Deepin reviewed positively on Distrowatch today
Post by: ssfc72 on October 13, 2020, 04:43:25 AM
Buster, can you remember if Deepin was 1 click of the mouse, to shut it down or did it take multiple clicks?

Quote from: buster on October 12, 2020, 01:53:31 PM
So I downloaded deepin and installed it in virtual. It needs and demands 4 gig ram and 64 gig space! Also the install, where I normally just let the default partitions fall where they might, it had produced an odd selection of partitions, including 1 /recovery, 2 /roots, 1 /boot, a swap and and at least 1 /home.

After using it for awhile, I couldn't think of any reason why I would want to keep using it, though everything worked fine.

It was like trying on a pair of shoes that just don't quite feel right. So it is gone now.
Title: Re: Deepin reviewed positively on Distrowatch today
Post by: buster on October 13, 2020, 02:19:09 PM
" Buster, can you remember if Deepin was 1 click of the mouse, to shut it down or did it take multiple clicks?"

That will take some thought. I know it wasn't in colour: it was definitely black and white words I clicked. And yes, it was maybe three clicks.

And that question reminds me of when fox was spending hours to save seconds on his boot time. Three clicks takes about 2 to 2 1/2 seconds. Do you turn off your computer 30, 40 times a day? And are you an extremely busy person? Or it it a sort of a challenge? And would this determine your choice of distro?

I sort of understand this kind of challenge, and it is interesting. But is it mostly a hobby, or does it matter a lot to you?

Title: Re: Deepin reviewed positively on Distrowatch today
Post by: Jason on October 13, 2020, 03:04:30 PM
Quote from: buster on October 12, 2020, 09:26:22 PM
"What page did you find those requirements on? "

I never read about that stuff, I just install. I wasn't allowed to install until I met those requirements. Maybe virtual is different. It knew it was a virtual install because it noted that and gave me some advice.

Interesting. I've never seen that during an install before. So maybe it was that you're on a virtual machine as you guess.
Title: Re: Deepin reviewed positively on Distrowatch today
Post by: ssfc72 on October 13, 2020, 03:08:16 PM
It matters a great deal.  It is asinine for an OS to force you to perform 3 mouse clicks, to shut down the OS, when the logical, elegant way would be to only require 1 mouse click, to shut down an OS.
When I want to shut off my radio, I only need 1 operation, either a push of a button or a single turn of a knob.
When I want to shut down my TV, it is a single click of the remote.  It would be asinine, if you had to click your remote 3 times to shut down your TV.
When I want to shut off my stove, it is a 1 operation turn of a knob and does not force me to do 3 operations, to shut down.

Quote from: buster on October 13, 2020, 02:19:09 PM
" Buster, can you remember if Deepin was 1 click of the mouse, to shut it down or did it take multiple clicks?"

That will take some thought. I know it wasn't in colour: it was definitely black and white words I clicked. And yes, it was maybe three clicks.

And that question reminds me of when fox was spending hours to save seconds on his boot time. Three clicks takes about 2 to 2 1/2 seconds. Do you turn off your computer 30, 40 times a day? And are you an extremely busy person? Or it it a sort of a challenge? And would this determine your choice of distro?

I sort of understand this kind of challenge, and it is interesting. But is it mostly a hobby, or does it matter a lot to you?
Title: Re: Deepin reviewed positively on Distrowatch today
Post by: Jason on October 13, 2020, 03:16:49 PM
I assume that pressing the power button once doesn't work to shut it down? If it only goes into sleep mode when you do that, adjust your power settings so pushing the button turns it off.
Title: Re: Deepin reviewed positively on Distrowatch today
Post by: buster on October 13, 2020, 03:24:10 PM
" It is asinine for an OS to force you to perform 3 mouse clicks"

Hummmm. When I shut down my stove after baking I turn the temperature setting to zero, turn the bake knob to off, turn off both the stove light and stove fan. Now I'm really angry!
Title: Re: Deepin reviewed positively on Distrowatch today
Post by: Jason on October 13, 2020, 03:30:59 PM
Quote from: buster on October 13, 2020, 03:24:10 PM
" It is asinine for an OS to force you to perform 3 mouse clicks"

Hummmm. When I shut down my stove after baking I turn the temperature setting to zero, turn the bake knob to off, turn off both the stove light and stove fan. Now I'm really angry!

You have a stove light? Now I'm angry (and disappointed in my stove).
Title: Re: Deepin reviewed positively on Distrowatch today
Post by: Jason on October 13, 2020, 03:46:03 PM
Step away from this point, gentlemen. It's fruitless and straying from the original topic. Let's stick to Deepin's features not each other's idiosyncrasies. We all have them.
Title: Re: Deepin reviewed positively on Distrowatch today
Post by: buster on October 14, 2020, 01:48:44 PM
1. I agree Jason, and I apologize (fingers crossed behind my back). But I think you have to admit the sequence about the stove was funny.

2. Years ago this kind of talk was called 'bantering', and it is allowed only among friends. Its intentions are benign and considered almost a friendly game.

3. I'm not sure we need to keep on topic since our mass of posters is down to 4, and our readership is mostly our 4 posters.

4. I think we need a website for welcoming people, and I'm more than willing to help with at least words, including humour, for that page. I have a few ideas. And then we can also start dropping our site into other forums we visit to increase traffic - quite innocently of course.

5. I've been sitting on a story for about 6 weeks that's complete, but I'd like an introductory webpage for the site first.
Title: Re: Deepin reviewed positively on Distrowatch today
Post by: Jason on October 14, 2020, 04:42:04 PM
Yeah, I'll get around to putting the website up again... sometime. :) It's like when you tell your wife that you're going to get around to do something. "Honey, I told you six months ago I'd do something about it, so stop nagging me!" So, I've said months ago I was going to do it. I just never said when.

But I did take a short course on Wordpress which is the platform I'm going to use. I just have to take the admin side of it now. It's very nice. Like using a word processor. You could even put stuff up on it and I could edit, or vice-versa. It's flexible. So I'm closer than I was but not sure how far away I am.

As far as bantering goes, online, it's very hard to read how someone is saying something. And I felt it was getting a little bit over banter to becoming teasing. Not everyone likes teasing. I know that I don't. Just because someone doesn't express that it annoys them doesn't mean it doesn't.

And staying on topic is still important, because our posters might be limited but many other people do actually read our posts so keeping on topic is helpful if they're looking following a threat if it interests them. I know sometimes it's hard because there might be cursory subjects that border on the topic. Keeping topics focused is also why when a topic is 30 days old or even less in some case, you should start a new post. Focus on the user. Nobody wants to go through 20 pages of a thread with dates that go back months and may no longer relevant.

Case in point: I'm trying to get help with a specific mod for SMF (the Forum software). For support issues regarding that mod, there is one, just one, long topic. It goes for about 39 pages. And it goes back to 2011, many version of the mod back and many versions of SMF back. I can go to the end but then it's hard to follow in reverse order when users are responding to other users. It's an exaggerated example of a topic that should have been split off, at least by version or maybe for a specific problem instead of every problem in one topic.